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 It's hard to tell but there are five people sitting in the cockpit. From left to right we have what used to be the Navigator but is now usually an extra seat. Then we have the Pilot followed by the jump seat and the Copilot. Finally we have the Flight Engineer who in this picture is one of my former students. The second picture shows what the Flight Engineers panel looked like with all the lights on. Notice the hand on the right side holding the test switch on. Normally if all these lights came on you would be in real trouble. The lower picture is taken of a KC-135 tanker just before we hooked up. This was taken at about 23,000 ft.